Bury FC have been issued with a stadium closure over offensive comments from fans according to Manchester Football Association.
The Commission Chair have decided to impose the following sanctions on Bury FC, which means a two-match full stadium closure.
This means that for two home matches, no spectators can be present at Bury FC’s stadium. Bury FC have since issued a statement on the matter, but some fans of the club have deemed the punishment to be “ridiculously heavy-handed”.
Bury FC currently sit 2nd in the North West Counties Football League Premier Division table with 58 points from 29 games played, and are point behind leaders Wythenshawe Town with the Shakers also having two games in hand.
⚪️🔵 To clarify from the statement:
“…we will continue to play in front of supporters during this period, and we will keep supporters updated as to any progress made as it happens.”
— Bury Football Club (@buryfcofficial) January 11, 2024
BURY FC STATEMENT:
Bury Football Club has been informed by Manchester FA that an independent committee has decided that due to the offensive comments made by two supporters during our game against West Didsbury and Chorlton in September, we should be forced to play our next two home games behind closed doors.
We reported the incident at the time, and provided video and other evidence to the police to assist their enquiries at some considerable cost to the club. We have not disputed the claims made. The individuals have not yet had their case heard by the law enforcement authorities and have been prevented from entering the stadium indefinitely whilst we await the outcome.
Our grounds for appeal are limited. We have accepted the facts of the incident, and do not believe that we acted in a way which was anything other than responsible and measured. We accept that the two individuals involved could have been removed from the stadium immediately but the stewards took a view at the time to stop any further problems and review the situation afterwards. We paid additional money to a CCTV specialist to review footage and provided this to the police. Our stewarding costs are £3-4,000 per game, it is not something we take lightly.
The basis of our appeal is that the punishment is excessive. We have seen multiple incidents over recent years of groups of supporters collectively issuing racist, misogynistic and homophobic abuse, as well as tragedy chanting. These have gone unpunished or have been dealt with by fines. We acted on the day. We are unable to completely control the words of two people in a crowd of 3,838 on that particular occasion.
We accept there should be a punishment, but excluding every well-behaved football supporter from a stadium which has already excluded those who perpetrated the offences, does nothing to promote inclusion.
The loss of revenue is extremely damaging and our belief is that it would be far better to use that revenue to fund a campaign intended to positively promote diversity and inclusion. Football needs to change, this would help make that change.
A stadium closure throws this opportunity away and is likely to ignite a more divisive and polarised debate on these important issues.
We have taken huge strides to actively promote diversity and inclusion since forming the club and have raised money and awareness throughout the borough through the hard work of our volunteers, many of whom will be deeply dismayed by this judgement as it punishes them despite their efforts.
For this reason we intend to appeal. It is not because we are in any way dismissive of the issues involved. The appeal process will take a number of weeks and we will continue to play in front of supporters during this period, and we will keep supporters updated as to any progress made as it happens.
We are also concerned that this specific judgment has been published publicly whilst matters are still being considered by the relevant law enforcement authorities.
Disciplinary Commission (“The Commission”)
On behalf of Manchester Football Association In the matter of Bury FC
1. These are the written reasons for the decisions of the Disciplinary Commission Chair who considered the above matter.
2. Nick Leale (Chair) deliberated on this case alone as Disciplinary Commission Chair, considering the case based on the papers provided. The charges 3. Bury FC was charged by Manchester FA in respect of the following matters:
Charge 1: FA Rule 21.1 — failure to ensure spectators and/or supporters conducted themselves in an orderly fashion and did not use improper, offensive, violent, threatening, abusive, indecent, insulting, or provocative words and/or behaviour.
It was further alleged that the words and/or behaviour referred to race, disability and sexual orientation contrary to Rule 21.4.
This referred to the comments “paki”, “faggot”, “retard”, “spastic”, and limp wrist gestures’ or similar.
4. The charges followed the alleged misconduct of Bury FC supporters at a match between Bury FC and West Didsbury & Chorlton FC in the North West Counties Football League Premier Division on 2nd September 2023.
Key background facts and evidence
5. The following is a summary of the key submissions provided to the Commission Chair. It does not contain reference to all the points or submissions made and the absence of any point does not mean that it has not been considered.
6. For the avoidance of doubt, the Commission Chair carefully considered all the evidence and materials in respect of this case.
7. Manchester FA received a report about events at the above match from ‘Kick It Out on 6th September 2023. In an e-mail received on that day from a Kick It Out Reporting Officer the evidence of two complaining individuals (who were present at the match) was presented in which there was reference to:
I. a Bury FC supporter repeatedly shouting “faggot” at an away supporter wearing a ‘rainbow’ shirt and also using the word “paki” towards another person in the stand.
II. Bury FC supporters making homophobic ‘waving’ (it is assumed ‘limp wrist’) gestures at away supporters.
8. Further evidence was received by West Didsbury & Chorlton FC representatives from a supporter of West Didsbury & Chorlton FC on 10th September 2023 stating that she had heard Bury FC supporters use the words “spastic” and “retard” towards supporters using the disabled facilities at the ground.
9. A summary of the other key evidence in the case appears below.
10. 0n 30th November 2023, Manchester FA notified Bury FC of the misconduct charge being brought against the club, as outlined above. On the same day, Bury FC pleaded guilty to the charges and asked for case to be considered on the papers.
Summary of further relevant evidence
11. The Commission Chair was also able to consider Bury FC’s written submissions, which in summary stated that the club had imposed ‘soft’ segregation at the fixture and that stewards were positioned where the two sets of supporters may be close to each other. The Club accepted the charge and was disappointed by the behaviour of the supporters involved, who had been suspended from attending matches at Bury FC while the police investigation continued. The Club employs a security firm to provide match day stewarding and match day planning always takes place in advance.
12. The Club has a CCTV system in operation at matches to assist with the identity of individuals involved in any misconduct and continues to issue posts on social media to reinforce the Club’s commitment to inclusivity and diversity. There is now a flag to promote inclusivity and diversity on display at the stadium. There is now a new more effective segregation system in place when large number sof away supporters are expected at the stadium. There have been no similar issues at the stadium since the events of 2nd September.
Decisions and reasons
13. The Commission Chair carefully considered all the written and oral evidence provided. The burden of proof rests with the County FA.
14. The standard of proof is the civil standard, the balance of probability. In simple terms, the Commission Chair must be satisfied, on the evidence, that it was more likely than not that an event had occurred.
15. The Commission Chair concluded that the Rule E21 charge and aggravated Rule E21.4 charge against Bury FC was proved. The club admitted the charge and the evidence of the words and gestures used by the Club’s supporters was clear and undisputed. The evidence was clear that Bury FC supporters had repeatedly directed abusive and discriminatory comments at visiting supporters/others present at the match — as described above. The words and actions used were repeatedly abusive, indecent and discriminatory by their reference to race, disability and sexual orientation. A small number of supporters were involved but the behaviour was repeated numerous times during the course of the relevant match. The words were used in an aggressive way and coupled with intimidating, threatening and aggressive actions, including repeated offers to right with visiting supporters. No proper action was taken to stop the behaviour or remove the relevant individuals from the stadium.
16. The Commission Chair was informed of Bury FC’s offence history going back to the start of the 2018/19 season. There had been several relevant previous misconduct findings against that club in that period relating to spectator behaviour. Most significantly:
I. Following events on 9th November 2021 the Club were fined £75 following a breach of FA Rule E20. Supporters had spat at the visiting goalkeeper and thrown beer on the pitch. This was recorded as the third incident of the season involving misconduct by Bury FC supporters.
II. Following events on 27th March 2022 the Club were fined £65 following a breach of FA Rule E20. Supporters had repeatedly set off smoke flares.
III. Following events on 2nd April 2022 the Club were fined £80 following a breach of FA Rule E20. Supporters had set smoke flares, thrown items onto the pitch and taken part in crowd disturbances.
IV. Following events on 15th November 2022 the Club were fined £140 following an aggravated breach (ie involving discriminatory behaviour) of FA Rule E21. A spectator had described the assistant referee as a “gay boy” and “faggot”.
V. Following events on 26th November 2022 the Club were find £190 following a breach of FA Rule E21. A supporter had used violent conduct towards opposition spectators.
VI. Following events on 11th March 2023 the Club were fined £215 following a breach of FA Rule E21. Supporters threw a flare onto the pitch and invaded the field of play.
VII. Following events on 28th March 2023 the Club were fined £165 following a breach of FA Rule E21. Supporters had attempted to strike the referee at the end of the match.
17. The Commission Chair concluded that the events of 2nd September 2023 at Bury FC were of the utmost seriousness, given the repeated poor behaviour of their supporters and the heavily discriminatory actions of their supporters at the match in question. The conduct of their supporters was made significantly more serious by the numerous previous E20/E21 misconduct findings against the Club as detailed above in the period from November 2021.
18. Seven serious misconduct findings involving supporters in such a short space of time (prior to the subsequent events of 2nd September 2023) is truly exceptional. Sadly, for Bury FC, the poor behaviour has now escalated into a further finding of abusive behaviour that included discriminatory references. The Commission Chair was left with no choice but to substantially increase the seriousness of the sanction passed against the Club.
19. The Commission Chair decided to impose the following sanctions on Bury FC:
I. A fine of £350 (reduced from the maximum due to the club’s guilty plea).
II. A two-match full stadium closure. This means that for two home matches, no spectators can be present at Bury FC’s stadium. The stadium closures must occur on the date of the first two North West Counties League Premier Division matches to take place at the stadium after the receipt of the notification of this decision by Bury FC.
20. This decision is subject to the right of appeal under the relevant FA Rules and Regulations.
Nick Leale (Chairman)
8th January 2024
This is what Twitter users are saying as Bury FC are issued with a stadium closure over offensive comments from fans…
@EliteTigers1: This ruling appears to be excessive in the extreme. You would have to question the competence of the independent Chair making this decision. Also a sanction of this magnitude should need sign off from at least a panel of three. Very poor.
@TheBiggestwills: This is like it’s some kind of parody! 2 games behind closed doors because two blokes said something? Really?
@PFSPURR: Just a thought! Maybe We should boycott away games? Maybe We should boycott the Glossop game? They don’t like us do they? Going to make promotion even more sweeter! Up the Shakers!
@Simdru: This seems extremely heavy-handed.
@BeagriesTash: That is an absolutely scandalous punishment.
@QPRReport: As long as every club is treated the same way for the same offense!
@rh0de5: Bloody hell. That’s a bit harsh.
@MarkHowsham: Fa right to take action, whether it’s proportional is another thing, wonder how many others have had such restrictions given? Tho it does give opportunity to some folks to visit a ground, shout abuse, knowing they are unlikely to be identified without CCTV and get club punished
@CalFerguson: ridiculously heavy-handed punishment
@laticsJLB: That is absolutely ridiculous
@burybuzz: You’ve handled the whole thing terribly. An embarrassment
@Gazbfc93: Nonsense 😂
@sufc_Tom16: 2 do something yet 4000 get punished?
@jakejenner07: It’s the only way people are going to be deterred I suppose
@JacobSte22: 3-4k on stewards a game 🤣🤣, they’re taking the piss surely
@SeanButler94: Let’s be honest we are one of the only clubs that pay for stewards and still manage to have the worsted ones 😴 same shit different day
@BurySned: What a joke! I’ve no idea what was said but clubs don’t have to play two games behind closed doors for full on riots. Another tactic to stop us getting promoted. Shameless.
@shakerstu: Little men at the Manchester FA throwing their weight around. Would they do the same to other clubs? No. The punishment does not fit the crime. I wish you’d stop rolling over and accepting this nonsense. Thank god there’s some fight on the pitch as there’s none on the board.
@FootiePrint: Having read the ruling & seen the language used, it really is quite disgusting behaviour. However, punishing 4000 folks (not to mention club volunteers & staff), due to the moronic actions of two, is absurd. Life bans, jail terms & criminal records needed. But not this. Awful.
@GT1490: An excellent statement in response to a decision taking by those on a power trip, who have been dying to dish out this punishment for a while. There isn’t a football club in the country who won’t have issues with a sub section of supporters and their comments.
@BlythsGreenArmy: Being forced to play 2 games behind closed doors because of the actions of 2 individuals is ridiculous. Why punish an entire fanbase because of the actions of 2 wankers?
@_joeb0501: Any #gills fans responsible for the charges we’ve had from the FA over the past few seasons should read this statement and see what punishment could await us if these things happen again in the future..
@chrxs_t_: Fantastic statement, fed up of us being screwed over time and time again. Challenge them